Parts that were in the script but not the film

[Keith]

Hi guys

I'm keeping away from the Saw 6 board now because I don't want to know anymore info about the film. But, since I can't resist being on the HOJ boards I thought i'd make this thread. Someone did the same thing for Saw 5 so I thought i'd do one for Saw 4.

I have just finished reading the final shooting draft of the Saw 4 script (purchased from the OfficialSaw store) and, while the film was very close to the script, there were a lot of small changes and a few big ones and I thought i'd list them - I will try to remember as many as I can, but i'm bound to miss some because my memory isn't great. Lol. Also, these won't neccessarily be in the order that they appear in the script.

Jigsaw's autopsey tape is a lot longer, with him talking about being in every drop of blood and every shadow (kinda similar to the way Candyman talks).

Trevor rips one of his eyelids off while fighting with Art and demands to be given the key.

Also, in that same scene, Art gets hit in the leg with a scythe, not a hook, and he gets slashed across the neck rather than across the cheek.

Hoffman makes a couple of phone calls to Corbett before he gets 'captured' in which he tells her not to worry and she will see her dad again soon and that he's bringing her a toy.

Hoffman is not strapped to a chair when he's connected to Eric's game, instead he is suspended on a meathook (i'm assuming it's not really sticking in him though, we were just meant to think it was).

Brenda's game doesn't have Rigg checking the drawer for a knife.

In Ivan's game we don't actually see anything happen to him at that time, we just hear him scream. We get to see what happens in a flashback when the police are at the crime scene of his.

During the clinic flashback where Gus hits Cecil Jigsaw has a conversation with a man called Derek, who says to Jigsaw that he can tell there's nothing wrong with him and asks if he knows Jill.

Addison is seen in the clinic itself and her scene where she approaches Jigsaw in his car isn't in the script.

When Cecil attacks Jill he holds the knife to her stomach and threatens her and as she's trying to open the door for him he gets impatient and deliberately throws her to the ground, which is what causes her to lose Gideon.

When Rigg enters the school where he finds Rex and Morgan he passes the room where Troy's game took place. In the film we just see the door, but in the script he peeks inside and we see a flashback of Troy's game and we also see parts of Troy being removed from the room while Hoffman asks Rigg if he could do something like that if he were placed in one of Jigsaw's games, to which Rigg replies that he doesn't know.

Cecil's game is completely different, instead of knives it is a mask full of razor blades and glass and Jigsaw keeps himself hidden from Cecil - Cecil waks to find a tv in front of him and Billy appears on it, giving the speech that Jigsaw prepared for him. Cecil then puts his face in to the mask once, but reciols as he starts bleeding. He then rocks the chair, the leg snaps and he breaks free. Jigsaw advances on him to subdue him, but Cecil sees him and attacks him. Cecil slips and falls in to the wire and Jigsaw watches him struggle and then makes a sketch of Paul's game.

The vagrant from the hotel is gagged and bound inside the glass box as Jigsaw removes the tarp from it when Jill leaves. This is all we see of that though.

When Jill and Art visit Jigsaw in his lair Jill sees one of Jigsaw's traps, a device in which a person sits and has their hands sliced off.

When Rigg enters the Gideon building he finds a sign saying 'Look Closer, Officer Rigg' and an arrow pointing right. He goes down the right corridor.

When Strahm follows and reaches this sign he studies it more closely and realises that the arrow is in a mirror's reflection, so it's actually pointing left, so Strahm heads left. (so if Rigg had gone left then he would have won his game because he couldn't have gotten to the final test room in time).

When Rigg goes through the final test room's door the blocks of ice do not fall, instead Eric is pulled upwards by the wire attached to the door and he's suspended in the air as the blocks move and crush his head. This causes Hoffman to fall off the meat hook and in to the pol of water below him.

Rigg points his gun at Art and Art tries to convince him that he is not the bad guy. Rigg notices the spine cutter, which has a timer on it that matches the countdown timer for Rigg's game. The timer for Rigg's game, which has frozen on 0:01 starts to beep and Art screams 'nooooooooooo!' as the beeping gets louder and suddenly the spine cutter goes off, severing his spine.

When Strahm opens the sick room door Jeff comes rushing out and attacks Strahm with the bonesaw before being shot.

The whole scene where Hoffman rescues Corbett is seen and during that scene we get flashbacks of Corbett alone in her cell, receiving the phonecalls from Hoffman.

Well, I think that's everything. Besides a lot of conversations being slightly different, but they are only very minor.

Apologise for the length! Lol. I have purchased the scripts for the first 3 films aswel, and they are on their way to me, so when I get them and read them I can list any differences with those if anyone would like me to.

Thanks for reading!

[sean_ofthedead]

I feel that had everything been done that way, IV could have been a lot better.

[KillerZavatar]

Originally Posted by sean_ofthedead

I feel that had everything been done that way, IV could have been a lot better.

yeah i think the same. it wouldnt feel to rushed in some parts. they should have released a two hour version

[Keith]

I flipped through the script just now to see if there was anything I had missed and there was:

The flashback scene where Jigsaw shows Jill his workshop is entirely different. After Jigsaw turns on the lights there is nothing about the 300 year old clock or the first version of the Billy doll that he made for Gideon. Instead, Jill sees 5 rats on the floor and they are in traps that mirror Jigsaw's traps that he would use in the films (it doesn't say which ones though). Jill questions Jigsaw about it and he says the place had been infested with rats and pidgeons so he had built humane traps that kill the animals quickly.

I didn't like this part though, because John doesn't seem like the kind of person who would lay lethal traps for animals. Had he placed traps that caught them and he would later release them in to the wild then that would better suit his character.

Although, this is before he becomes Jigsaw, so maybe it's trying to display the gradual change that he went through as he started to view the world differently and the value of life differently.

[sean_ofthedead]

Yeah, to see John put rats into little traps...that would have been pretty odd, given the fact that nothing "life changing" had occurred to him just yet.

[rammmses]

That's really interesting. Some of it should have made it in the movie like the Troy flashback and the phonecalls, but other things were done better in the final film (Jigsaw's lair, the clock, Cecil's trap, Gideon's death). Love IV the way it is, though it really feels a bit too rushed.

Just one question: Was the death of the photographer really in the script? It just felt so random and pointless.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by rammmses

That's really interesting. Some of it should have made it in the movie like the Troy flashback and the phonecalls, but other things were done better in the final film (Jigsaw's lair, the clock, Cecil's trap, Gideon's death). Love IV the way it is, though it really feels a bit too rushed.

Just one question: Was the death of the photographer really in the script? It just felt so random and pointless.

I agree with everything you just said, couldn't have put it better myself.

Well, the death was in the script but it wasn't her who died. I actually forgot about this part and looked it up when you asked. It was 'Crime Scene Worker 2' who got killed, not the photographer - she's at the scene, but doesn't get killed.

I also have some more parts that I missed:

The autopsey tape is found in Jigsaw's intestines, not his stomach.

Trevor's dead body gets dragged in to that device and his neck is snapped.

Daniel Matthews is very briefly mentioned - When Rigg tells Hoffman that he's in it till he finds Eric, he tells Hoffman that he made a promise to Daniel that he would not rest until Eric was found.

Strahm's pen that he clicks (and uses on his throat in Saw 5) is used a lot more by Strahm - he constantly clicks it throughout the interrogation of Jill Tuck in order to frustrate her and he also asks her when she last had sex - as a way of rattling her and making her more vulnerable to letting something slip.

After the flashback of Jigsaw crashing his car (from Saw 2) we see John go to visit Gideon's grave and his arm is in a sling.

I'm watching the DVD of Saw 4 right now and following it with the script, so if I find any more that I missed i'll post them.

[Maxima]

Thanks for posting this Keith!

Personally, I would've loved to have seen the spine cutter in action, as well as Cecil's tape, the actual glass box scene, Trevor ripping out his eyelids, and flashbacking to Ivan's trap.

Saw IV was already pretty action packed, but it would've been even more badass with all these cut scenes!

[rammmses]

Originally Posted by Keith

Well, the death was in the script but it wasn't her who died. I actually forgot about this part and looked it up when you asked. It was 'Crime Scene Worker 2' who got killed, not the photographer - she's at the scene, but doesn't get killed.

Lucky 'Crime Scene Worker 2'.

Originally Posted by Keith

After the flashback of Jigsaw crashing his car (from Saw 2) we see John go to visit Gideon's grave and his arm is in a sling.

I think they shot this scene and remember seeing some of it in the making-of. I think he puts those little chinese figures on Gideon's tombstone.

Originally Posted by Keith

I have purchased the scripts for the first 3 films aswel, and they are on their way to me, so when I get them and read them I can list any differences with those if anyone would like me to.

I'm looking forward to it! I'd also be really interested in changes from the V script, beacuse Patrick said that they left out many things including Amanda flashbacks.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by rammmses

Lucky 'Crime Scene Worker 2'.

I think they shot this scene and remember seeing some of it in the making-of. I think he puts those little chinese figures on Gideon's tombstone.

I'm looking forward to it! I'd also be really interested in changes from the V script, beacuse Patrick said that they left out many things including Amanda flashbacks.

I remember that part too in the making of Saw 4, I really wish they had kept it. In the script he just lays flowers at the grave, but I love the idea of him laying the figures on the tombstone.

I could do a Saw 5 one if you like - I already have that script coz I got it last year at Sawmania. There is already a thread for Saw 5 script omissions that someone else did somewhere on the board though and they pretty much covered everything. I'm not sure where that thread is now though so if you can't find it then i'd gladly make one.

And i'll be sure to do ones for the first 3 films when the scripts arrive - which should be in around 4 - 5 days, as I live in the UK. I'll post the threads on the specific boards for those films.